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		<title>Good Player Status</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Show some respect, man. I am a good player.&#8221; These are the words uttered from the player that got lucky on another player in a hand I was a spectator on at the table.
What the fuck? Did he really just say that?
The new player that thinks we all should respect his bad play is a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Show some respect, man. I am a good player.&#8221; These are the words uttered from the player that got lucky on another player in a hand I was a spectator on at the table.</p>
<p>What the fuck? Did he <em>really</em> just say that?</p>
<p>The new player that thinks we all should respect his bad play is a shaved head, tattooed, fight club type bad ass poser.</p>
<p>His opponent is an old school guy with strong mob ties. Trust me, I <em>know </em>he has mob ties. I also know he is someone you don&#8217;t want to fuck with at the table. And by fuck with, I mean bad ass babble.</p>
<p>Mr. Old School raises pre-flop to represent A-K or A-Q, some hand like that.</p>
<p>Mr. Respect calls.</p>
<p>The flop comes A-7-2 rainbow.</p>
<p>Mr. Old School bets the pot.</p>
<p>Mr. Respect calls.</p>
<p>The turn is a 5.</p>
<p>There is a bet and a call.</p>
<p>The river is a 10.</p>
<p>Same deal: bet and call.</p>
<p>Mr. Old School shows A-K. He flopped top pair.</p>
<p>Mr. Respect flopped nothing. No pair. No draws. But, he did turn a pair. And rivered two pair.</p>
<p>A 989-to-1 runner-runner longshot.</p>
<p>How is that good play?</p>
<p>Re-raising the top pair player to represent a set on the flop and getting the better hand to fold. Now, <em>that </em>would be good play worthy of good player status.</p>
<p>Folding on the flop when you miss would be worthy of good player status.</p>
<p>Knowing when you are beat on the flop and folding would be worthy of good player status.</p>
<p>Folding a shit hand like 10-5 off pre-flop would be worthy of good player status.</p>
<p>But being a calling station when you are dominated and getting runner-runner luck is not worthy of having good <em>and</em> player in the same sentence, bro.</p>
<p>I will give him this: he had the right combination of ignorance and balls to trash talk someone who is capable of helping you sleep with the fishes.</p>
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		<title>Poker Lessons Cost Extra</title>
		<link>http://www.rounders-inc.com/2010/04/29/poker-lessons-cost-extra/wynn/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wynn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a line The Cincinnati Kid by Edward G. Robinson&#8217;s character Lancey &#8220;The Man&#8221; Howard to the effect of &#8220;You paid the looking price. Lessons cost extra.&#8221;
I like the wisdom with that line. The only thing that I find more irratating than getting a speech from someone on the losing end of a pot [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a line The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cincinnati_Kid" target="_blank">Cincinnati Kid</a> by Edward G. Robinson&#8217;s character Lancey &#8220;The Man&#8221; Howard to the effect of &#8220;You paid the looking price. Lessons cost extra.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like the wisdom with that line. The only thing that I find more irratating than getting a speech from someone on the losing end of a pot is to explain how I won the hand.</p>
<p>Here is a prime example that happened in a No Limit game the other day:</p>
<p>I have 4-3d on the button and call a small raise by a weak calling station in middle position. I put him on some kind of big Ace.</p>
<p>We are heads-up to the flop with Ad-4h-2d.</p>
<p>He fires out a pot-sized bet.</p>
<p>I raise him 4X.</p>
<p>He pushes all-in.</p>
<p>I call and show the gutshot straight flush draw with middle pair.</p>
<p>My opponent, of course, shows A-Q off.</p>
<p>The turn is Js and the river brings my money card: 3c for two pair.</p>
<p>Then comes the speech: &#8220;How could you call my bet?</p>
<p>At first, I ignore him. I am reveling in the fact that the table thinks I am a super tight player and they marvel at the 4-3 hand.</p>
<p>Finally, I had enough of the speech.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is like this, Sir. You were behind on the flop. Way behind. You could have flopped a set of Aces and been a big dog to win,&#8221; I tell him.</p>
<p>&#8220;How so? I had a pair of Aces,&#8221; he tells me.</p>
<p>&#8220;I had 17 outs making me a 68% favorite to win the hand on the flop,&#8221; I reply.</p>
<p>&#8220;But I had Aces! What 17 outs?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, with a pair and straight flush draw, I had (9) diamonds, (2) 4&#8217;s, (3) 3&#8217;s, and (3) non-diamond 5&#8217;s. That is 17 outs multiplied by 4 to give me 68% to win,&#8221; I tell him.</p>
<p>He got up to rebuy &#8230; mumbling the rest of his speech the whole way.</p>
<p><img src="http://badges.alltop.com/images/alltop_170x30_whoa.jpg" alt="Alltop. How the hell did that happen?" width="170" height="30" /></p>
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		<title>Five Blanks</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes, things just work out.
I am in a no limit game last night. Heads up against a player on my immediate left.
I have a small pocket pair.
My read is my opponent is holding A-X.
The board is five blanks. No Aces, no paint.
I check call all the way.
On the river, I feel my pair is good.
When [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, things just work out.</p>
<p>I am in a no limit game last night. Heads up against a player on my immediate left.</p>
<p>I have a small pocket pair.</p>
<p>My read is my opponent is holding A-X.</p>
<p>The board is five blanks. No Aces, no paint.</p>
<p>I check call all the way.</p>
<p>On the river, I feel my pair is good.</p>
<p>When I show the pair, I get a speech.</p>
<p>&#8220;How could you call with just a lousy pair?&#8221; he asks.</p>
<p>&#8220;How could you bet with just Ace high?&#8221; I respond.</p>
<p>He goes on tilt.</p>
<p>The very next hand, I four bet.</p>
<p>This same opponent pushes all-in.</p>
<p>The action folds to me and I call.</p>
<p>He shows Q-Q.</p>
<p>I turn the cards over so an Ace is showing.</p>
<p>I then slide the Ace off to my right to expose the bottom card.</p>
<p>Another Ace.</p>
<p>And, another speech.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dammit. I finally get a pocket pair and you just had to have Aces this time!&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, the board was five blanks.</p>
<p>In both hands, my opponent overplayed his hand.</p>
<p>He could have saved alot of money by checking the turn and river on the first hand if he did not pair his hole cards.</p>
<p>On the second hand, the right play was call pre-flop, then fold to my all-in on the flop if he did not hit a set.</p>
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		<title>Kings Speech</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wynn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I played it right, won a pot, and got a speech.
Like I need poker lessons from a short-stack that played it wrong and lost the hand.
I limp in on the button with J-10 diamonds.
The small blind raises to $10.
Everyone folds.
I call.
The flop comes Qd-9d-7s.
I have an open-ended straight draw and a flush draw.
There are 9 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played it right, won a pot, and got a speech.</p>
<p>Like I need poker lessons from a short-stack that played it wrong and lost the hand.</p>
<p>I limp in on the button with J-10 diamonds.</p>
<p>The small blind raises to $10.</p>
<p>Everyone folds.</p>
<p>I call.</p>
<p>The flop comes Qd-9d-7s.</p>
<p>I have an open-ended straight draw and a flush draw.</p>
<p>There are 9 diamonds, 3 eights, and not knowing for sure if my opponent has pocket Kings or not, 3 kings for a total of 15 outs.</p>
<p>Without the Kings, I have 12 outs making this pretty much a coin-flip.</p>
<p>My opponent bets $20.</p>
<p>I call.</p>
<p>The turn is a 9. I made my straight.</p>
<p>My opponent goes all-in and I insta-call.</p>
<p>Next comes the speech on how bad I played and why am I even in the pot.</p>
<p>Young guns.</p>
<p>I listen to the three minute rant.</p>
<p>Then I launch into quoting Doyle Brunson: &#8220;I read Super System last night. Doyle says that if you have pocket Aces or pocket Queens and a potential straight comes on the flop, the right play is to fold your hand.&#8221; (I am para-phrasing of course, but that is the gist.)</p>
<p>The kid gets up from the table and walks up to my seat.</p>
<p>So, I continue my speech: &#8220;Listen, it was cheap to play on the button. Jack ten is the best hand to have for a straight. The flop gave me enough outs for us to be a coin-flip. You made it cheap for me on the flop to call. And I had position.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then comes the puppy dog eyes as if I gave him what he thinks is his first bad beat.</p>
<p>&#8220;The right play for you was to either move all-in on the flop and take your chances with me calling a coin-flip, or fold. Do you think you are a good enough player to fold pocket Kings?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Who folds pocket Kings?&#8221; he replies.</p>
<p>I have folded Kings more than I have shown them down.</p>
<p>And I am the donkey?</p>
<p><a href="http://poker.alltop.com/"><img src="http://badges.alltop.com/images/alltop_170x30_we2.jpg" alt="Alltop. We're kind of a big deal." width="170" height="30" /></a></p>
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		<title>The 5-6 Off Speech</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I seem to get speeches quite a bit from players that are losing to me.
Here is one I found amusing:
I am in a no limit Texas Hold&#8217;Em cash game the other day with a $200 &#8211; $500 buy in.
I have a deep stack of over $2,300.
A sixty-something man to my right just did this second [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to get speeches quite a bit from players that are losing to me.</p>
<p>Here is one I found amusing:</p>
<p>I am in a no limit Texas Hold&#8217;Em cash game the other day with a $200 &#8211; $500 buy in.</p>
<p>I have a deep stack of over $2,300.</p>
<p>A sixty-something man to my right just did this second rebuy for $500.</p>
<p>He is tilty and I am feeling frisky. So, I play him heads up with 5s-6d on the button.</p>
<p>I put him on a big hand even though he is on tilt.</p>
<p>The flop comes 3-4-7 rainbow.</p>
<p>He bets and I call.</p>
<p>Turn card is a king.</p>
<p>He bets and I call.</p>
<p>The river is a deuce.</p>
<p>He bets and I push him all-in.</p>
<p>He calls with A-K or what I like to call Big Broke.</p>
<p>I show him the nuts and I get a five minute speech.</p>
<p>That translates into $100 per minute.</p>
<p>So, I try to ease the pain by explaining my decision.</p>
<p>I say, &#8220;Well sir, 5-6 off happens to be my favorite hand. But, one card<em> has</em> to be black and the other <em>has</em> to be red. Otherwise, I can&#8217;t play it. No way would I ever play 5-6 suited. But a black 5 and a red 6 is enough for me to push all-in. In fact, I have won more with that hand than most people do with Big Broke. You know &#8230; ace-king from early position.&#8221;</p>
<p>He shook his head and left stuck for over $2,000.</p>
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		<title>Miracle Session</title>
		<link>http://www.rounders-inc.com/2009/08/30/miracle-session/wynn/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just finished a miracle session of no limit Texas Hold&#8217;Em. The miracle started after a decent session.
All night long, the table I was seated at would break up. The rule in most casinos is you take all your chips to the new table. Not this night. I could only take the maximium buy-in. So, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished a miracle session of no limit Texas Hold&#8217;Em. The miracle started after a decent session.</p>
<p>All night long, the table I was seated at would break up. The rule in most casinos is you take all your chips to the new table. Not this night. I could only take the maximium buy-in. So, instead of going to the table with 3 &#8211; 4X the maximum buy-in, I was placed at a disadvantage to joining an existing table.</p>
<p>In most games, this would be considered going south. Floor management got it wrong. But I was ok. Just had to grind harder longer.</p>
<p>I join a table at 6 AM with $500 after pocketing $2,000 from the broken game. My first hand is in the big blind and I am dealt pocket 10s.</p>
<p>Everyone limps in, so I raise to the pot value, making it $90 to go for everyone. At this point, I am happy to take down the small pot.</p>
<p>The table folds around to the button. The button reraises me another $100. Small blind folds.</p>
<p>I ask this player how the value of his hand went from a $10 limp-in with 9 players ahead to $200. Putting him on a weak hand making a position raise, I call.</p>
<p>Flop comes A-K-Q rainbow. I bet $100 into the $500 pot. The button re-raises me another $100. I call.<br />
The turn is a Jack. I check my straight. The button goes all-in for his last $100, which is my last $100.</p>
<p>The river was a blank. I show pocket 10s for the straight. The button? Shows me pocket Queens.</p>
<p>It took me about five minutes to stack the chips. Long enough to hear the speech on how unlucky he was. I agreed. But, if he raised before I acted, I most likely would have folded the 10-10 preflop.</p>
<p>This kicked off a miracle session. For the next four hours, I could not lose a hand. I earned another $1,500 in profit before leaving for the day.</p>
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